Charles Povey and Emily Harman

Charles Povey lived all his life in (west London). He married Emily Harman, whose parents were from Brighton (Sussex). They had 8 children, with 5 or 6 of them surviving to adulthood. Most of the children stayed in west London, though one granddaughter emigrated to the USA.

Charles was a labourer (1896 and 1901), a wheelwright (in 1911), and then a wagon repairer (1921 and 1939). Emily was a laundress (1921) and later laundry supervisor (1939). Several members of this family married on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day.

Several members of this family married on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day.

Charles Povey

Charles Povey (1866-1950) was a son of my 2 x great grandparents Charles Povey (1846?-1901) and Elizabeth Herbert (1845-1881). He was born on 29 October 1866 and baptised—with his sister Elizabeth Povey (1871-1947, my great grandmother)—on Christmas Eve 1871 at St John the Evangelist, Kensal Green (west London), although the family were living in Child’s Hill (Hendon, northwest London). Also baptised on the same day at the same church were two of their cousins. https://birdsofcressingham.wordpress.com/2020/09/26/did-these-people-know-they-were-related/

In 1871 Charles and his parents were in Child’s Hill. In 1881, they were at 2 Little Church Place (Queens Park, west London) and Charles was working with a bookbinder. https://birdsofcressingham.wordpress.com/2021/01/26/charles-povey-and-elizabeth-herbert/

I haven’t found Charles in 1891.

Marriage

Charles Povey married Emily Harman (1877-1969) on Christmas Day 1896 at St Jude’s, Kensal Green. Both were of full age and unmarried. Charles was a labourer and son of Charles Povey (a carpenter). Emily’s father was named as George Alfred Harman (a painter).

One witness was Charles Clark—presumably my great grandfather Charles James Clark (1869-1946) or perhaps his father Charles Clark (1831-1916). The other witness was Janet Alice Harman [Emily’s sister] The bride, groom and witnesses all signed their names, so were literate.

Kensal Road

Charles was residing at 198 Kensal Road and Emily at 241 Kensal Road. Charles wasn’t the first person from 198 Kensal Road to marry that year. 10 months earlier, Mary Ann Benton gave that address when she married George Frederick Clark (Charles’s brother-in-law, of 210 Kensal Road). Emily was a witness at that marriage. https://birdsofcressingham.wordpress.com/2021/06/12/why-was-emily-a-witness/

George Frederick Clark’s brother Charles James Clark (1869-1946) was the husband of Charles Povey’s sister Elizabeth Povey (1871-1947).

12 people were living at 198 Kensal Road in 1891 and 16 in 1901. I don’t recognise any of the names. It looks as though that building had a fairly transient population.

Also at 241 Kensal Road around then were:

• George Frederick Clark with Mary Ann in 1898 (though they moved to 35 Prothero Road, Fulham) by 1901. https://birdsofcressingham.wordpress.com/2022/02/11/george-frederick-clark-1872-1935
• George’s brother Henry Clark and his wife and family in 1901. https://birdsofcressingham.wordpress.com/2020/11/15/clarks-in-blaenavon

In 1901, Charles and Emily were at 239 Kensal Road. Charles was a general labourer and Emily was an ironer. Also with them were:

• daughter Lily;
• Emily’s mother Jane E Linscott (52, Brighton, Sussex, also an ironer); and
• nephew George A Poplett (8, born in Acton). George was a son of Emily’s sister Agnes (1869-1899).

Also at 239 Kensal Road (in a separate household) in 1901 were Thomas Clark (1865-1915) and his family. Thomas was another brother of George Frederick Clark. https://birdsofcressingham.wordpress.com/2020/09/16/clarks-in-kensal-road/

Emily Harman

Emily Harman’s birth was registered in 1878 in Kensington. Her parents were George Harman (1845-1888, a painter and decorator) and Jane Elizabeth Temple (1849-1928). George and Jane were both born in Brighton (Sussex) and married in the Kensington area in 1867.

Jane evidently struggled after George’s death in 1888. The 1891 census shows her as an ironer at 53 Hunt Street, Hammersmith with 2 of her 5 living daughters (Louisa Amelia Harman and Janet Alice Harman). Her other 3 children were at the following places in 1891:

• Agnes Harman: perhaps Agnes Harman (23), a servant at 90 Haydn Park Road, Hammersmith.
• Emily Harman: not found.
• Lily Rose Harman at 11 Model Building Brighton with her aunt Catharine Turner (née Harman—George Harman’s sister) and Catharine’s family. Lily was still with the Turners in Brighton in 1901 and married there in 1908.

School records shows that Agnes, Louisa and Jane [Janet] Harman all entered St Clement’s Road School, having been before at a Ragged School (schools for destitute children). Emily entered there on 2 February 1885, having been before at ‘£ Infant Dept.’

Alice Harman (born 1876) was admitted to Kensington hospital 18 May 1888 and discharged over 3 months later on 27 August 1888, to father George and mother Jane, 55 Stoneleigh Street.

Jane remarried on 26 May 1895 in Notting Hill, to William Linscott, a painter, son of Thomas Linscott (deceased painter).

Charles and Emily move to Fulham

In 1911, Charles and Emily were in 3 rooms at 31 Hannell Road, Fulham. Charles was now a wheelwright. They had had 8 children, 4 of them still living.

By 1921, the family was in 6 rooms at 27 Dymock Street, Fulham, where Charles and Emily were to spend the rest of their lives. In the household were Charles, Emily, 6 of their children and a boarder, a future son-in-law. Their occupations were:

• Charles: Railway waggon repairer, working for Hinchliffe Coal Owners, Westbourne Park station
• Emily: laundress, William Green Laundry, Garden Row, Welham Green
• Lily Agnes: magazine factory hand, Van Den Burgh’s, Townend Road, Fulham.
• Dorothy: assistant dressmaker, [crossed out words: WF Reece, costumier], working at 34, Langham Street, Oxford Circus
• Albert: errand boy, out of work. Last employer: Shell motor spirit works, Townend Road
• Thomas: carpenter’s shop boy, GOA [or GDA?] Brown, 167 [or 67?] Hammersmith Road
• Violet and Ivey: both in full time school
• Alfred Henry Warren, boarder, part-time postman, Welham Green Post Office. Lily’s future husband.

Charles and Emily in 1939

In 1939 Charles was a wagon repairer on the Metropolitan railway. Emily was a laundry supervisor. Also with them was their married son Albert (a general labourer), though Albert’s wife Elizabeth was in Hoddesden (Hertfordshire). One entry below Albert is still redacted out.

Still with Charles and Emily at 27 Dymock Street in 1939, but in a separate household, were:

• their daughter Lily—assistant manageress in a laundry;
• Lily’s husband Henry Warren—an inspector moulding powders (plastics); and
• Lily and Henry’s daughter 15-year-old Peggy Dorothy Warren (1924-?)—a junior clerk in a laundry.

Lily and Henry’s other child, Henry Charles Warren (1927-1941), was in Chertsey (Surrey) in 1939. There is no known connection with the family he was with, so perhaps he had been evacuated.

Charles and Emily’s deaths

Charles died in 1950 in Fulham and was buried on 19 May 1950 in Kensington and Chelsea. Emily died (aged 91) at 27 Dymock Street and was buried in Brompton Cemetery on 2 April 1969.

Children

Charles and Emily had the following children:

• Lily Agnes Povey (1899-1988) See below
• Dorothy Povey (1903-1993). See below
• Henry James Povey (1904-1904)
• Albert Povey (1905-1953). See below
• Elizabeth Povey (1906-1906)
• Thomas Povey (1907-?). He was still with his parents at 27 Dymock Street in 1934 but was no longer there in 1935. I haven’t found him after that.
• Violet Povey (1913-2001). Married Ronald Leslie Dunn (1914-1990) in the 3^rd quarter of 1939 in the Hammersmith area. Violet (a hairdresser) and Roald (a pump attendant) were at 54 Ringmer Avenue, Fulham in 1939. They had a daughter in 1947.
• Ivy Povey (1915-1990). See below

Lily Agnes Povey

Lily and Alfred Henry Warren (1897)-,  married at St Matthew, Fulham on 29 January 1922. Henry was a postman and son of Thomas William Warren, deal porter. The witnesses were sister Dorothy Povey and Dorothy’s future husband Alfred Hall.

Their daughter Peggy Dorothy Warren went on to marry Wallace A Skelton, an American serviceman in 1944 and emigrated with him to the USA.

Lily and Alfred also had a son, Henry Charles Warren (1927-1941)

Dorothy Povey

Dorothy Povey married Alfred T Hall (1904-1975, a lorry driver) on Christmas Day 1924 at St Matthew, Fulham. Both were residing at 27 Dymock Street. The witnesses were Henry A Warren [brother-in-law] and Emily Alice Sackett [connection unknown]. Charles Povey’s occupation was given as carriage builder.

In 1939, Dorothy and Alfred Hall were at 20 Fane Place Fulham. Albert was a factory maintenance mechanic and an asphalt plant foreman and fitter. He was also an ARP London Passenger Tra[illegible: transport? Travel?] Decontamination Squad.

This couple had 4 children. At least 2 of them were in Chertsey in 1939—presumably evacuated, like their cousin Henry Charles Warrenal were at 12 ane [?] Place, Fulham

Albert Povey

Albert Povey married Elizabeth Keating on Christmas Day 1931 at Fulham registry office. Albert, a general labourer, was son of Charles Povey, wagon repairer. Elizabeth was daughter of Patrick Thomas Keating (deceased), a plasterer journeyman. Albert and Elizabeth were both unmarried and both gave their address as 27 Dymock Street. The witnesses were E Povey and M Keating.

In 1939, Albert was at 27 Dymock Street, but Elizabeth was in Hoddesdon (Hertfordshire) with one of her daughters. I don’t know where the couple’s other 3 children were. Elizabeth was on unpaid domestic duties.

Ivy Povey

Ivy married Albert E Warren in Fulham registration district in the 3^rd quarter of 1935. I haven’t found enough information to show whether Albert was related to Lily’s husband Henry Alfred Warren.

In 1939, Ivy was at 266 Friern Road, Camberwell, southeast London, by herself, but shown as married. She was on unpaid domestic duties. I haven’t found Albert. Perhaps he was on military service.

Albert Edward Warren had already been at 266 Friern Road in 1936, but not in 1935. The electoral register shows Albert and Lily there together in 1937, 1938, 1939.

It seems that Ivy and Albert separated (and perhaps divorced) by the end of the war:

• Ivy Warren and Alan A Trapp were at 79 Hightrees House, Battersea in 1946. They married on 1 January 1948 in the Battersea area. An Ivy Trapp is shown (without Alan) at addresses in Battersea between 1954 and 1965, so perhaps that marriage broke up too.
• Albert was back at 266 Friern Road from 1946 to 1950, but without Ivy. He was no longer there in 1951. He is presumably the Albert E Warren who married Brenda K Inch in the Camberwell area (southeast London) in 1950. Albert and Brenda stayed in southeast London: they were in 28 Oakbank Grove, (Herne Hill, southeast London) by 1954 and were still there in 1964. Brenda died in 1980, living at Thakeham Close, Lawrie Park Gardens, Sydenham (southeast London).